Saturday, April 01, 2006

Gaza under attack...

Its 1am. Gaza city is under heavy aerial and sea bombardment, unlike anything the city has seen in recent years. As I write this, F-16 warplanes-not Apaches or tanks-are bombarding Gaza City, where I live, just a few roads away from my house. The entire house is shaking and the windows have cracked. The explosions are so powerful my ears are ringing...they are like sonic booms, but they are real, and they are terrorizing and causing panic. There are several casualities reported by local radio, but other than that we know little else....I'm going to take cover now.

Update: We passed through the night safely, and for now, the F-16 attacks have stopped. This morning, navy gunships (which can be seen off Gaza's coast) have been pounding Jabaliya and other areas of northern Gaza. Internally, the security situation has calmed down as well-after a bloody day of factional infighting, the gunmen are now off the streets (and Mr. Dahalan is far away from the accusations being thrown at him, in the U.A.E.). More on this matter later.

62 Comments:

Blogger johnie said...

hey Laila... please try to post us in the morning and let us know you're still in one piece

2:08 AM  
Blogger Abu Shaar said...

My God, Laila.

My prayers and with you and Yousuf.

TisbaHi 'ala kher

2:14 AM  
Blogger umkahlil said...

If you're a US citizen write your congressman now, please:

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home

Copy and paste Laila's post and write that you do not want your tax dollars to fund this collective punishment of the people of Gaza City;

2:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While you are writing your Congressman you can also write to Ismail Haniyeh, the new Palestinian prime minister. His e-mail address was in today's Guardian: ihaniyyeh@hotmail.com

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1743628,00.html

Tell him what you think of the gunbattle on Friday that erupted between Palestinian security forces and the militant Palestinian Resistance Committees and that killed three people and wounded 25 people.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/31/mideast/

I'm sure this three hour gun battle in Gaza City must have also been quite annoying and kept you indoors under cover.

4:56 AM  
Anonymous Khalid said...

Laila, my simpathies..
My friend had a problem falling asleep recently, becouse he live close to rail road. I told him to put ear plugs! Boy was he happy! He sleeps like a baby.
Another good remedy; don't drink coffeine 6 hours before you get to bed.
Good Luck!

5:37 AM  
Anonymous Khalid said...

Laila, what a story...

I red it too...

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/31/mideast/index.html

I think they have a right to resist.
After all the more they shoot, the less bullets they have.
Meanwhile the best place to hide is underneath your bed. I hope you make is till tomorrow, please, I like your blog.

5:50 AM  
Anonymous KarenM said...

Laila,

Please stay safe and hold Yousuf extra tight. You will be in my thoughts.

KarenM in NC

7:00 AM  
Blogger الفلسطينية said...

my thoughts and prayers are with you, Laila- stay safe inshallah

7:20 AM  
Anonymous Omar Abo-Namous said...

be safe.

Salam.

Omar

11:17 AM  
Blogger Hazem said...

alf salamah
rabena ma3aki
take care of yourself as well as Yusuf

4:31 PM  
Anonymous greek girl said...

I would wish you strength and courage, but you already have those...
My thoughts are with you, and all of the people of Palestine

4:53 PM  
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6:28 PM  
Anonymous Elithabeth said...

irLaila, thanks God you are well!

It is sad that good people like you need to suffer all this violence. All those warlords like Dahlan fight each other and you guys suffer. Unfortunetely I think you are headed to civil war, like Iraq. It is unbelievable how innocent citizens like yourself are manipulated by those with power and money.
I hope Yusuf is doing well. Peace.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0604010046apr01,1,675995.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed

7:38 PM  
Blogger Imaan On Ice said...

You're in my du'a.

Keep us posted.

//Imaan

7:59 PM  
Anonymous JCslady said...

can i post?

8:11 PM  
Anonymous EU 3 said...

So, will you be visiting the local casino? I hear it's rather beautiful. By the way, since it's not really reported in the international media, why don't you write more about the internal fighting and civil war going on in Gaza. You make a passing comment about here and there but don't really go into much depth. I'm sure there are many people who would really like to know what's going on with that.

9:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, it's another day and the Palestinians are still shooting at each other. No wonder Laila and her child are frightened to go out.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060401/wl_nm/mideast_hamas_dc

1:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You might want to ask the Islamic Jihad men in the neighborhood to find somewhere else to be. Like, say, the Tel Mond Prison. So long as any of them are in your neighborhood, Israel is fully justified in shelling it to bits.

6:48 AM  
Anonymous S. Levine said...

"So long as any of them are in your neighborhood, Israel is fully justified in shelling it to bits."

I would also add that as long as fanatic Israeli colonizers ("settlers") are in the West Bank, Islamic Jihad is fully justified in shelling it to bits.

Make sense? Didn't think so.

Laila, I hope you and everyone around you makes it out of this round safe and sound. As an American Jew, I am disgraced by the IDF and their actions.

Peace.
S. Levine

7:09 AM  
Blogger Why Palestinians Usually Get It Wrong said...

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7:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Laila,

Allah Ma3ek & your family. Stay safe, my thoughts & prayers are with you.
H

7:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Laila,

Allah Ma3ek & your family. Stay safe, my thoughts & prayers are with you.
H

7:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Laila,

Allah Ma3ek & your family. Stay safe, my thoughts & prayers are with you.
H

7:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Laila,

Allah Ma3ek & your family. Stay safe, my thoughts & prayers are with you.
H

7:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

S. Levine, if you really exist, you are a truly sick individual.

Laila, get them to stop launching rockets towards Israel, and presto, there will be no more rockets directed at the launch locations, lookout points, and those who direct the attacks.

Then you'll only have to deal with your fellow residents shooting at each other.

10:07 AM  
Blogger ifyouwillit said...

S. Levine, check your facts. When was there an Israeli settler movement to openly call for the death and destruction of Palestinians. Islamic Jihad has no right to viloence, they have a right to defence, just as Israel does.

Terror gets no one anywhere, stopped trying to justify it with unjustified reasoning and misquoting truths.

12:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee ifyouwillit!! Ever heard of the kahane group or masada or any of the other groups in Israel dedicated to the forcable removal of all non-jewish groups out of Israel proper AND other land surrounding it. Seems just as some palestinians would like to push Israelis in to the sea some Israelis would love to push palestinians into the desert. These groups would love to have the whole world forget that palestinians exist and have any rights at all... In my opinion NO ONE should get away with killing anyone!! Not palestinians, Not Jews, NO ONE... And when someone does get killed the person responsible needs to be punished not the whole community as so often in the case of the palestinians and not justified as so often in the case of the Israeli army!! By the way Just how would you suggest Islamic Jihad or any other palestinian authority defend palestinians against bombs and airstrikes and property demolitions and land confiscation?? The same way Israelis do??? The whole land would be destroyed by now if it was even tit for tat. Lets face it if you still subscribe to the eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth as another person put it so nicely we'd all be blind and toothless. Someone has to be brave and stop the violence and it will have to be the one with the most ability to commit the violence and that is....

6:15 PM  
Blogger Olah Chadasha said...

Anon (6:15 PM), the Kehane group was outlawed and classified as a terrorist group. Mayor Kehane was thrown out of the government when he formed the group. What happens when a guy like him is in the Palestinian society? He gets elected to parliament. See the problem with your analogy? Umm... Masada had nothing to do with pushing non-Jews into the sea. It was Jews defending against a Roman invasion. That's the only example you can come up with? It's totally laughable. You really should learn your history of the situation before making your bloviations. The only reason that there any mortars being shot into Gaza is because IJ decided to fire a ketyusha rocket into Israel. I know it's hard to understand, but try to comprehend this. If this second, all terrorist groups put down their weapons and rockets, there would be no more defensive measures taken against them by Israel. That simple. The people in Gaza would live in total peace and security if the terrorist groups claiming to represent their cause would stop shooting bullets and rockets into Israel.

This moral relativist comparison is just so ridiculous.
-OC

9:35 PM  
Anonymous batyahgirl said...

Exactly. I don't understand why you can't understand that the REASON you are being hit is because YOUR PEOPLE are sending missiles over into Israel and killing our citizens.

Why do you deliberately leave out that vital piece of information in your blog entries???? Could it be that you just want to garner sympathy by playing the victim?

I expected more of you when I came over here to visit. I was referred by an Israeli blogger who thought so highly of you. But it looks like the same old, same old.

Sigh. Stop killing us, and we will have no need to defend ourselves. Much about the Middle East is complicated, but this isn't one of those things.

11:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Masada is also a new group (not the historic group.. god I'm not that stupid) you can get the link from the kahane site that is still running and thought quite highly of by some settlers!! The issue was about "settlers movements" that are similar to Islamic jehad and the like.. since the poster seemed to think there was no such thing.. not the general public of Israel... And I didn't say the Israelis wanted to push the palestinians into the sea "some would like to push them into the desert or even just wipe them out totally. I doubt thats the general consensis but who knows with some of the comments from some of the blogs I've seen maybe its a more popular idea than I would like to think. Even when the palestinians stop shooting into Israel it seems thats the time you get a rise in targeted killings that start the horrible cycle all over again. Frankly until some of you Israelis start realizing that you have contributed to the violence and taking responsibility for your own actions then how do you expect palestinians to do the same. You hold nearly all the cards and cry victim too... As to why the blog MIGHT seem unbalanced to you well your comments are unbalanced as well, you only see your own points of view and how the nasty palestinians disturb your peace and you don't stop to think that what your government has done has devastated several generations of palestinians.
I can understand both the points of view but until each side has the courage to see the other side as human and say "but for the grace of god go I" then you will continue to de-humanize your "enemies" and GOD HELP you both...

12:26 AM  
Blogger umkahlil said...

If we loved our children more than we hated Israelis then they could forgive us for forcing them to kill our children.

A Patchwork Quilt from Golda Meir

1:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

batyah girl,

have you ever wonder maybe just like u,the Palestinians are repeating the cycle of revenge?

a nation with f16 paid with my tax money should not begged sympathy by using terms like: they started first.

coz u know,u have plenty of blood in ur hands too.

4:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well, let's see...a racist state like israel..perhaps the most racist democratic nation in the western world is trying to preach humanity.

Gosh.

1)The National Union (Haichud Haleumi) party, comprised of the Settler Party, the Mifdal, and other Jewish groups, also calls for the resettlement of Palestinian refugees in Arab countries and elsewhere.
2)The party headed by Benjamin Elon, a former Israeli cabinet minister, also opposes the creation of a Palestinian state.The National Union pledges that another political entity will not rise between Jordan and the sea.It advocates the creation of a Talmudic Jewish kingdom whereby non-Jews in general, and Palestinians in particular, are treated as "water carriers and wood hewers" in the service of Jews.

WONDERFUL.TURNING THE ARABS INTO WATER CARRIERS FOR THE RACE PERSECUTED FOR 2000 YEARS.

3)Yisrael Beitenu (Israel is Our Home), headed by Russian immigrant Avigdor Lieberman, is mainly a "Russian party" since most of its support come from Russian-speaking Jewish immigrants who moved to Israel in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
Lieberman advocates "population transfer" of Israel's Arab citizens.

so,ouuch..so much racisim.I wonder how should the Palestinians will fight so that they would not be thrown into the desert.

4:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well you said this:

Sigh. Stop killing us, and we will have no need to defend ourselves. Much about the Middle East is complicated, but this isn't one of those things.


I almost burst into laughter after reading your narratives.


You have the right to demand that if you get your ass out of the West Bank.
There's no respect from us,the Christians here in America till Israel understands that Palestine must be born before terrorism could end.
The Haganah terrorists who butchered the Christians in Palestine in 1940's and 1950's were the founding people of the current state of Israel.And you feign like terrorism is a new term for you?BS.

Just last month,Christians who have lived in the village of Abboud,West Bank for 900 years were chased out of their homes becoz the Jewish settlers need more walls and security.The Cardinal in DC had to beg Prez Bush to take action.
Christians were chased out of their homes and from their lands just becoz they were not Jews.


Laila,my prayers with you and all the Christians in Palestine.
Let God punish these people with the fairest of the fair punishment.Rapture will come one day.And, these people will cry for help from the Lord.

5:01 AM  
Blogger solitarioh2005 said...

The Haganah terrorists who butchered the Christians in Palestine in 1940's and 1950's were the founding people of the current state of Israel.And you feign like terrorism is a new term for you?BS.



Just watch the video.
The video is from 1947, december, months before Israel was born.
Who declared war on whom ?

Click here and download the 1947 videoclip to watch who declared war on whom

12:55 PM  
Blogger solitarioh2005 said...

The arabs did not acept israel in 1947.
Nasser wanted to destroy israel in 1967.

" Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight


President Nasser of Egypt , May 1967 "

Click here to see the 1967 news article

Egypt invaded Israel in 1973.
And who is guilty ?
Israel.
It makes all the sense.
Israel is guilty of refusing to be destroyed.

Only a few days ago Mr Zahar that is an honest fellow declared


"I dream of hanging a huge map of the world on the wall at my Gaza home which does not show Israel on it," Zahar said in the interview. "I hope that our dream to have our independent state on all historic Palestine (will materialize)."

Click here to see Zahar declarations

The problem is not israel.
The problem is the hatred against israel.

This is the root of the conflict
Peace would come if the world get rid of the hostility towards the jewish state

1:14 PM  
Blogger Abu Sinan said...

Amazing that we dont hear a word about this here in the USA.

2:17 PM  
Blogger Shaggydabbydo said...

Hi OC,

"Anon (6:15 PM), the Kehane group was outlawed and classified as a terrorist group. Mayor Kehane was thrown out of the government when he formed the group. What happens when a guy like him is in the Palestinian society? He gets elected to parliament."



There are many examples of pre-Ieraeli state terrorists getting elected to office once Israel became a state, all the way up to PM level.

I suspect that once a Palestinian state is created, as with Israeli, former members of banned groups will be incorporated into the 'state' military, thus becomming 'legitimate'.

One of the main drivers for the Jewish state was for the right to bear arms and defend oneself (under 'state' auspices) , the Jews have managed this with the creation of the Israeli state, the Palestinians will manage it as well, and hopefully will not turn out to be as militaristic as the Israeli's have been.

Regs, Shaggy

4:34 PM  
Anonymous batyahgirl said...

"You have the right to demand that if you get your ass out of the West Bank."

Anon, don't you really mean: "get your ass out of Tel Aviv, and Haifa, and Jerusalem, and Netanya, and Eilat, and, well, come to think of it, get your ass out of Israel. In fact, get your Jew ass out of planet earth."

Isn't that what you really meant to say, after spending so much time with your Arab buddies?

The so-called Palestinians are more accurately Jordanians that got left behind by Jordan -- what a fast one those Jordanians pulled on the Israelis! Way to unload an unwanted population of people in a hurry. Simply brilliant. How do you explain, justify, condone, tolerate, the fact that so many Arab nations refused to resettle this group of refugees that were created because Arabs lost wars that they started? Where is your anger at them? What about the hundreds of thousands of Jews who were expelled from Arab nations in 1948? You concerned about those poor people? What about reparitions for them? No? I didn't think so -- I didn't think you would gave a rat's ass about them.

Then you talk about the Christians here -- now it's my turn to laugh. It seems the Muslims don't treat the Christians all that well, do they? It seems that in other Arab nations, being a Christian will get your head hacked off. Don't talk to me about how bad the Jews are to the Christians -- go educate yourself on how bad the Muslims are to the Christians, the Jews, and to anyone who is not like them. Let's talk about stonings, head hacking, torturing, and those darned honor killings (lots of that going on in Gaza these days -- wonder if Laila will talk about the missing and dead girls).

When you start demonizing the Jews and glorifying the Muslims, you know, you just cannot win, because the evidence for who is really barbaric is just too abundant. And you know it, too.

5:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone here actually beleive any of the leaders in the middle east deserve a halo? Not any Israeli nor any Arab leader deserves such a thing. Horrible things have been done on both sides but since someone has brought up the fact that Israel refuses to be destroyed so I bring up the fact that palestinians have the right not to be destroyed either.. none of them asked for the first holocost refugees to show up on their doorstep either. Now Israel is a fact, palestine must become a fact in a way that makes no one happy. Palestinians have to give up the idea that they are going to be able to get everything back and the Israelis have to digest the fact that they can't keep squeezing palestinians into smaller and smaller areas and also keep discriminating against their resident arabs of various religious affiliations. Each side seems to forget that when you point a finger to blame that more fingers are pointing back at you!!! Each side has to examine what they are doing wrong and fix it and stop expecting the other side to do all the work first otherwise nothing gets done because Wrong is wrong and injustice is injustice no matter what the other side is doing!! Can no one find the moral high ground and actually stick to it? When I read some of the statements here thrown back and forth it reminds me of the primary school yard and it doesn't befit sane adult debate!!!!!!! How anyone on either side can justify ANY child being killed on the crimes of the adults around those children is beyond me!! I was totally shocked by someone suggesting that the school girl shot in the field by border IDF was anyones fault other than the soldier who shot her for not taking a better look at what he was shooting at. This is so totally unacceptable it is unbeleiveable that people on both sides of the fence didn't demand explainations. The same goes when home made missles drop on homes and kill youngsters even in settlements, lets face it THEY didn't ask to be there in the first place. Adults make the mistakes and the children are always the ones to pay the price and their injuries and deaths are used for more and more mistakes!! Shame on the world for allowing the environments where these things can happen.

5:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

batyahgirl,

I just love how brainwashed you are.Maybe in Israel,they taught you that Palestine never exists, but in Bible we learned Palestine once was Phillistine.750 000 Arabs, Muslims and Christians were chased out of their land in 1948 becoz you have this premise that Jews need a state becoz duh,everybody hates you.Remember when Britian wanted to build Israel,the only Jewish cabinet minister rejected the idea becoz he found it to be RACIST .How could you tell the Jew that they need to get out of Europe becoz well,nobody wanted you in Europe?

I never hated the Jew but just assholes Israelis like you.

Sure,Christians are persecuted in Arab world.Tell me then if the Muslims are not treated like craps by Christians in Europe?THe Greek Orthodox church refused to allow the building of mosque in Athens.There are millions of Christians who hate Muslims and vice versa.They are millions more who love each other.The Lebanese Christians too hate you.why?not becoz you are a Jew,but becoz of your actions.To feign otherwise is bs.

the 106 000 Christians now in Israel are the smartest people in Israel.They have 66% of them passing their high school exams . Christians are much smarter than you are.The Messianic Jews were persecuted in Isreal and being told to get out of Israel.These people are living in a racist "democratic" state of Israel while being told "Go to gaza,this is a Jewish state where the name of Jesus should not be said"..

How bs is that when every time you hate people,you ask them to get out.


Nobody ask you to get out of Isreal.Even you did get out,PLEASE DON'T COME TO USA or any western nations.Go to Uganda.( Zionist first list of building a Jew state)

You can easily get out from West Bank,and the radical Palestines after seeing the establishment of Palestine would slowly and tenderly learn to accept Israel.To constantly say,they wanna throw us into the sea while you wanna throw them into the desert is JUST HYPOCRITICAL.

They are radicals from both sides.But radicals from your side always pretend to be angles.remember,my tax money is running your health care.The 1.2 Bilion we gave you were the money you used to pay the illegal settlers in Gaza.We did all of that amid when our own people were dying in New Orleans.you should be grateful to us Christians here in America rather than chasing us out from the Holy Land.

Jesus will come down one day.the Muslims believe the same.You'll pay the price for rejecting the Lord.








Jesus was once born in Palestine,NOT ISRAEL. where he was tortured and killed by the Jews who refused to accept him as the Lord.

Read your Talmud,you'll be taught how the rest of Gentile are animals and only you are human.

6:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And of course by the Romans too who now repented and become Christians.

6:43 PM  
Anonymous heavenhelpus said...

i'm all for reasonable debate but the post above is just straightforwardly anti-semitic, jews being christ-killers , jews get out but don't come to the usa etc. delete this joker, laila?

6:56 PM  
Blogger solitarioh2005 said...

Some quotes from anonymous.


I never hated the Jew but just assholes Israelis like you.


/......../
Jesus was once born in Palestine,NOT ISRAEL. where he was tortured and killed by the Jews who refused to accept him as the Lord.
/......../
Jesus will come down one day.the Muslims believe the same.You'll pay the price for rejecting the Lord.

7:04 PM  
Blogger Shaggydabbydo said...

"Jesus will come down one day.the Muslims believe the same.You'll pay the price for rejecting the Lord."


I'll have more than a fair few words to say to the Lord myself, in fact, by the time I've finished with Him, He won't be able to sit down for three eternities!!!

Regs, Shaggy

7:12 PM  
Blogger Abu Shaar said...

Laila reports that she can hear bombings very close to her home and all the Israeli here can post is "Well, you deserve it, you mother of a potential terrorist

You know, I don't know whether to laugh or cry

7:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Abu Shaar, I totally agree with you!
I am disgusted by some the attitude by the Israelis on this board, how ignorant is that? that they cannot distinguish terrorists from the everyday Palestinians? we should all use the same brush on them & brand all jews as zionists & kahane lovers all the same, how would they like it?

Laila is a mother & wife living under occupation trying to survive & keep herself & family happy. Do you really have to slam her when she reports her "paradise"? It is hers after all, I don't think you can survive 1/2 of what they are going thru on a daily basis. Have some heart!!
H

8:47 PM  
Anonymous Bendul said...

Christians who not anti-semitic:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/701583.html

10:55 PM  
Anonymous Bendul said...

Typo:

Christians who are not anti-semitic

10:56 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

While much nonsense has been spouted above, I'm so jealous that so many Israelis and Jews come to your site to either agree w. you or dispute you. I only wish more Muslims & Arabs would do the same for my site.

At any rate, this American Jew is terrified on yr behalf and expresses his sadness & remorse for yr suffering.

Pls. understand that for every idiot anti-Arab among us there are those who feel your pain and work hard for a just resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I do this through my own blog. And I also assure you that there are many Israelis and American Jews who value what you do here.

11:55 AM  
Anonymous batyahgirl said...

Anon,
Arabs weren't "chased out of Palestine." Rather, THEY WAGED AN ASSAULT on the Jews! They lost. Then they did it again. They lost again. Then they did it again. And they lost again. They will try to do it again, and, well, they will lose . . . again. Jews are not nor have they ever been the perpetrators of this violence -- go and study and try to learn, if you are capable. And by the way, "Philistine" was just the Roman name for Palestine -- Philistines are not the same people as modern day Palestinians. Geez, you are an idiot.

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was good buds with Hitler, didn't you know? There is plenty of documentation on that. He volunteered troops for the Nazi cause. It would seem that rabid, barbaric Jew-hatred on the part of the Arabs existed before there was ever a State of Israel.

Richard, for your information, I am not anti-Arab just because I dare to point out the facts of the case. Israelis as a group are not anti-Arab either. If they were, they could have slaughtered all of of the Palestinians a long time ago -- sort of like what so many Muslims have done down through history when they encountered a weaker nation inhabiting land that they decided they wanted for themselves. Instead, Israel has tried again and again to reach a compromise. Arabs do not want a compromise. Jews are willing to share the land. Arabs are not willing to share the land. These are the facts. Liberal Jews fall all over themselves trying to appease those who hate them; I don't see Arabs rushing to Jews' defense or trying to gain their favor. (In this one respect, I have to admit that Arabs are much smarter than Jews.)

I'm sure it is very terrifying to hear bombs dropping all around you. I'm sure that some Palestinians lead a desperate existence. The question is -- who is to blame? The blame falls squarely on the shoulders of their "leaders," as well as their Arab brethren in other nations, and lastly but not insignificantly, on themselves.

6:24 PM  
Blogger Abu Shaar said...

"We're not racists! If we were racists we would have smoked your asses a long time ago."

I have heard with my own ears how Israelis speak about "the Arabs", including their second-class fellow Israeli citizens.

8:26 PM  
Blogger Shaggydabbydo said...

Hi Batyahgirl,

"Arabs weren't "chased out of Palestine." Rather, THEY WAGED AN ASSAULT on the Jews! They lost. Then they did it again. They lost again. Then they did it again. And they lost again. They will try to do it again, and, well, they will lose . . . again. Jews are not nor have they ever been the perpetrators of this violence -- go and study and try to learn, if you are capable."

First, there was relative peace. Then came the Zionist invasion, spread over decades, into BM Palestine. Then came WWII. Then came the Theft on the creation by Zionists of the State of Israel.


"And by the way, "Philistine" was just the Roman name for Palestine -- Philistines are not the same people as modern day Palestinians. Geez, you are an idiot."

Check out this map, and the date(1759):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/1759_map_Holy_Land_and_12_Tribes.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1759_map_Holy_Land_and_12_Tribes.jpg
http://ancientneareast.tripod.com/Philistines_Philistia.html


Now upgrade your knowledge further.

Regs, Shaggy

4:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh well...the Grand Mufti worked with Nazi...But hey...the Europeans killed 6 million Jews..

You could forget that join the European continent.

Batyahgirl,it took Saladin 150 years to conquer back Jerusalem.

Imagine that.

5:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You could forget that and join the European continent.

5:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Poor batyah girl wrote:
"These are the facts. Liberal Jews fall all over themselves trying to appease those who hate them; I don't see Arabs rushing to Jews' defense or trying to gain their favor. (In this one respect, I have to admit that Arabs are much smarter than Jews.)"

the answer for that question lies on who is being the oppressor.

5:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ye'know i honestly have to say, my biggest hope was that following israel's pullout from Gaza (I personally think, what the HELL were those people thinking when they moved there in the first place?! not to offend any gazans but for a bunch of jewish settlers that's a dumb location) but they pulled em outta there.
I hoped that after that, everybody in gaza would hunker down together, and rebuild. Your cities have gone to shit. In far too many respects. Now you have the opportunity to rebuild everything, if Everyone started working together and you really got a collective effort going, you could have the whole area as good as new. If you start working on it all together, there's NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER that the world would just dump money on you to help. If they really see you rebuilding, everybody's up to help someone rebuild their broken home. Because we can all relate, we all cherish our homes.
If this happend there would be absolutely NO justification for any attacks from Israel. No matter how you argue it, and the attacks will as such stop.
On the note of Israeli Fanatical Movements, if you look carefully, they hardly got any mandates in the election. The people are TIRED of this fighting. On Both Sides.
Israel is falling apart too ye'know. Its not as bad as the territories but its getting there. The more time everybody spends fighting the worse -everything- gets.

Besides, if you build the Gaza strip up nicely, you can turn the place into one crazy tourist attraction. I mean you've got nice beaches, scatter some hotels and boardwalks drop a few ads. Bring in money, kickstart an economy. If you can keep the streets safe and lawful then people will flock over.

And one more thing that i don't think many palestinians are realizing. If the Israeli Government is now willing to just walk out of lands they are holding. Without even talking to you.
Think of what they are willing to negotiate!

9:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with previous anonymous. Stop the shelling. Build houses, beaches and people will start thinking of a Mediterranean paradise. Stop the shelling and the inner fighting. Give PEACE hope and opportunity. You have peace,you will have commerce. Commerce civilizes everybody. Property civilizes everybody.......GIVE PEACE A CHANCE......dO NOT GIVE INTO IRAN, HIZBULLAH, HAMAS, ALAQSA MARTYRS, etc.etc........they will continue destroying your life, your hopes your dreams, your children...............

12:39 AM  
Blogger ياسمين حميد said...

Does anybody have an idea what happened with Laila?
I hope she is well
This is the 10th day since her last post

1:27 PM  
Blogger Laila said...

Salaam ياسمين...

I am here, alive and well alhamdulilah, thank you so much for your concern!

I have been updating my blog daily-perhaps you need to refresh your browser?? If you go to the main site...www.a-mother-from-gaza.blogspot.com you can see the updates.

1:37 PM  
Blogger ياسمين حميد said...

I realised afterwards that I wasn't on the main page- I refreshed my browser daily but I was in the Archive, in the March page!
´:-p
So naturally I couldn't see the updates from 1st April
Happy to know you are well!

1:43 PM  
Anonymous davboz said...

Interesting......If the whole middle east were cleared out and replaced with the commenters here,their family and friends,.......IT WOULD START ALL OVER AGAIN !!
And then we see the overall condemnation of "the Israeli on this board." Any bias there?
I would say as an outsider with NO ties to either side, that Israel needs to complete the experiment of pulling back within their original borders on ALL sides, and prove to the world CLEARLY who the aggressors are!
"Palestinians" should stop shelling into Israel if they want peace and squash out Islamic Jihad,alAqsa Brigade,etc.at the first outbreak of misbehavior on their part.
Those living in squalor of Gaza might even find economic support from Israel and from the Western world if they put their efforts toward building trade,and a positive society.
Parents on BOTH sides need to stop teaching their kids that the other people are evil,or blood drinking pigs, or what have you.
Best to you Laila and batyah girl.Don't let the haters get to ya. Either of you!

11:41 AM  

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