Friday, January 09, 2009

"It wasn't me": the Israeli guide to spin control on Palestinian massacres

A friend of mine who is who worked for multiple human groups describes the Israeli government reaction to Palestinian massacres that have occurred and are occurring in Gaza, such as the Samuni massacre and that at the UN school, like this (an opinion echoed by Robert Fisk in today's Independent):

a. It wasn't us, one of their bombs exploded by accident or it was their own gunfire
b. It was us but they were shooting from (near) there/storing weapons there
c. Ok maybe that's not the case, but our 'purity of arms' makes us better than anyone else: no other army in the world takes such care in avoiding civilian casualties
d. there's no need for an independent/international investigation because we are a democracy and conduct our own investigations; and besides, the world hates us.
e. why are you still talking about it, you anti-Semite

*also known as: "It wasn't me, and so what if it was, you anti-Semite"

15 Comments:

Blogger Kelly Kilmer said...

It's worse then kids on a school yard. Kids on a school yard KNOW better then certain governments. Maybe the ones with the big weapons and guns- they all need to go back to kindergarten!

7:01 AM  
Blogger nindee said...

Dear Laila, i first saw you on aljazeera "listening post".

This post is exactly what i had in mind. No matter where, when, who. Whether it was Shabra, Shatila, Jenin, PLO, Hamas, UN, Red Cross, schools, hospitals...they will still say the same thing.

Your parents, friends and everyone is Gaza are always in my prayers.
Hang in there.

7:51 AM  
Blogger sw said...

with all due respect, this is not the first (or last) time that Hamas has or will use civillians as human shields

As such, I am willing to trust the israelis on this one, and throw my full support behind them if another situation such as this were to occur

7:55 AM  
OpenID theatricalpagan said...

Israel's "victim" status is no longer valid in the world, yet they will continue to try and play that card. However, they are being challenged by the growing ability for ordinary people to pass around information. The internet has changed everything and military controlled propaganda is no longer successful. People are learning that their voice through blogs and other social media has great power.

8:13 AM  
Blogger jonathan said...

Look, Leila,

I would hava had a lot of things to reply to, if I would have known that you would read, listen of even plain publish my replies. As I see you don't publish replies that contradict your stand, I won't bother, just as I don't bother reading your blog anymore, as it is not objective at all (not that anybody involved can really be, I think we should all try to be).

As you are going through hell right now, it is not the time to argue with you - I wanted only to wish you and your family well. As I stand on the other side of the conflict - sitting inthe shelters of bombed Beer-Sheva (and even support the Israeli operation in Gaza) I'm sure you don't accept the wishing from me, but really, I wish All of us well.

Jonathan, Bombed Beer Sheva.

10:53 AM  
Blogger NY said...

Dear sister,
I know u and other palestinian are hvg hard time, but i'd like to share sth:

"They(jew) will not fight you (even) together, except in fortified townships, or from behind walls. Strong is their fighting (spirit) amongst themselves: thou wouldst think they were united, but their hearts are divided: that is because they are a people devoid of wisdom."

(59:14)

The quran and the prophet had promised victory to muslim, inshaallah the time will come. My prayer includes my palestinian and other muslim brothers.

May Allah give you victory in life and afterlife.

11:03 AM  
Blogger Dragonfly said...

Oh please . . . give up on the 'human shields' line. Where's the evidence of this? Because Hamas exist within the bounds of Gaza? Of course they do, where else could they possibly be, they're Gazans! Do we see evidence in the human corpses that tell us some Hamas are amongst them? No! We see babies clinging to the corpses of their mothers with no Hamas corpse in sight. And the strike on UN trucks trying to give some relief to the human torture in Gaza .. are they human shields too? Is that why Israel army attacked them too? Oh go on, tell me it was another mistake, I can't wait, go on tell me. Israel is like the monkey that hears, speaks, sees no evil - they just inflict it, then try to deny it, or give some lame excuse that it was an accident. That's an enormous, daily, number of accidents. I know their army is undisciplined but even so . . .

12:09 PM  
OpenID plansocial said...

For those who would be interested in this story, here lies the truth : "IDF officers admitted there was no gunfire from Gaza school which was shelled" Haaretz (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054009.html).

Or maybe the IDF were linked to Hamas ?????

4:25 PM  
Blogger uk said...

Hello

My name is Abdoul and I am working at Medecins Sans Frontieres/Doctors Without Borders in London. I would like to get in touch as we are providing aid to the people of Gaza


I was basically wondering if you would like to cover our involvement in Gaza on your blog.You can get more information at http://www.msf.org.uk/articledetail.aspx?fId=a_paltry_response_20090108
I apologise for contacting you out of the blue - I found you through various online networks and through your blog itself and I have only contacted you because I thought you might be genuinely interested

Thanks for taking the time to read this far

Abdoul,

4:28 PM  
Blogger σίβυλλα said...

Free Gaza - Free palestine, from Greece

http://sibilla-gr-sibilla.blogspot.com/2009/01/raising-yousuf-and-noor-diary-of.html

رسالة وزير الخارجية اليونانى السابق للسفير الإسرائيلي. حيث تعودوا إرسال هدايا رأس السنة لكل من مر بوزارة الخارجية من وزراء
http://sibilla-gr-sibilla.blogspot.com/2008/12/blog-post_949.html

Theodoros Pangalos, Member of Parliament (Greece), is a big Greek socialist, returned gift and thanked the Ambassador of Israel...
http://sibilla-gr-sibilla.blogspot.com/2008/12/theodoros-pangalos-member-of-parliament.html

Stop genocide Israel Nazis – Free Gaza – Intifada. Athens 29 December 2008: Embassy of Israel - Athens
http://sibilla-gr-sibilla.blogspot.com/2008/12/stop-genocide-israel-nazis-free-gaza.html

Down the flag of Nazis israel in the embassy in Athens. Tolta la bandiera dal abasciata dei nazisti israeliani ad Atene
http://sibilla-gr-sibilla.blogspot.com/2008/12/down-flag-of-nazis-israel-in-embassy-in.html

Athens 29 December 2008: Embassy of Israel - Athens
http://sibilla-gr-sibilla.blogspot.com/2008/12/athens-29-december-2008-embassy-of.html


--
http://sibilla-gr-sibilla.blogspot.com/

12:28 AM  
Blogger JohnB said...

"It is well to remember that any man who denies justice to someone he hates prepares the way for a denial of justice towards someone he loves."

- Wendell Wilkie

No matter how much one tries to justify the use of overwhelming force as a mode of "defense" or a method of punishment, the absence of Justice only begets more injustice.

Once a society finds the unjust treatment of others outside of that society acceptable, it is only a matter of time before mistreatment of persons within that society will be found acceptable.

In other words: Either everyone is human or no one is.

Peace Now.

In Solidarity,

John

5:51 AM  
Blogger Judah Himango said...

There's a statement by a good religious teacher who once said,

"You reap what you sow."

The destruction being reaped in Gaza is a result of electing a racist and genocidal government.

11:48 PM  
Blogger Barry said...

I think people are just making too much out of this. You see it's very simple. Hamas has been firing rockets from Gaza for a long time, and Israel was trying to be tolerant and hopefully through negotiations put an end to it. That failed. However the reality is that not even one country on the face of the earth would let this happen for even one day. You better believe that if even 1 rocket fell on Detroit from Windsor Canada today you better believe that tomorrow Windsor wouldn't even be left standing by tomorrow. It's that simple. You can complain about all the civilian casualties all you want (and yes there could be many many many more), but if the same thing happened to another country they would just be called collateral damage.

1:09 AM  
Blogger PEPITO said...

the arabs have 22 countries but just cant stand that the jews have one.How generous .....LOL

1:15 PM  
Blogger Θάνος Δ said...

You can also ad this alternative description of Gaza: a place where
a. everybody is a terrorist, except children who might be considered as innocent victims of the Hamas’ barbarian and terrorist methods,
b. everybody is a terrorist, except children who are just future terrorists.

And I am still waiting for evidences that this UN school has been really used by terrorists to launch missiles against the Israeli army. But I guess that, once again, the only evidence needed for that is the declaration of the Israeli army, that is, the murderer is innocent because he says so…
It is a strange notion of justice if the defendant is the (unique…) witness and the judge as well…
It is a strange notion of justice if to be a suspect is enough to be condemned to death without any form of trial…

11:25 PM  

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